BEE BUS ROUTES?

Well from Monday our Mayor Andy Burnham starts his programme of the new BUS NETWORK for Greater Manchester , it 's after 49 year of transport regulation from Government they are now going to be run by Greater Manchester caled "" The BEE TRNSPORT "" Th e buse's are all going to be painted YELLOW with BEE LOGO on them ,the fares will be lower and governed fairly,and standardised , his clarion call is for us all to get out of our cars and start using this service . Will this be a good thing for the people of G.M. ????
G.B.

Do you think Burnham will be getting out of his car?
I think this is a case of "do as I say, not as I do".

Golden Bear

It is not really going back to the pre Greater Manchester, Wigan Corporation buses days, which came in April 1st 1974, but rather the 1986 bus de-regulation thing, which cut loose the buses into the private sector, it is that which screwed up the buses

Good ole Andy, Is he going to build more cycle lanes as well ?

I remember the days, (mid 1960's) when Manchester was considering building an underground railway. Some trial bores were made in the vicinity of Oxford Road rail station.

One of the meetings, which I attended, has gone down in history: Everyone in the room knew, but nobody dared say that the route under discussion appeared to ignore the existence of a then top secret underground facility: The Guardian Telephone Exchange.

I'll wait till I get my Bus Pass next year....not putting nowt in Burnham's pocket.

So you will be putting some money in his pocket BB

Bus passed are free....£10 if you want rail travel incorporated...I won't

Ena

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reet So I'm front of my house mowin't lawn and a nieghbour gets off the new yellow bus . My first observation is, Its diesel, So I asked the nieghbour, how is the new service, His answer was, " no differance at all, they've painted them, full stop "
they're coddin' folk deuth as usual

bee buses are electric .

Whupsy

Some of them are electric.

Tom

It 'should' be a big change in the way that the buses are run, and for the better, and I know that yoo are a bike-ist, but not everyone can ride a bike

Tommy Tee, I use the bus quite frequently and I'm all in favour of ' better service and more choice' All too often we can be waiting half an hour for a bus and when it comes, the bus is packed like sardines and then. another empty bus overtakes the full bus, That is Bad management and needs addressing,

at least it turns up . in rural areas they hav,nt seen a bus for 6 months .

Tom that's nothing new , LUT were always doing that back in the sixties when I caught them from Owfen to Tommy Linacre.

We used to have a small bus that ran from Ashton to Wigan but they took it out or service so to get to Wigan we have to walk half a mile, it was the 307 service and it was very handy, Burnham if you read this then put the bus back on,

Bentlegs, Yes that was a good bus for us to use too, It went down Poolstock lane and avoided the busy traffic at the saddle, They replaced it with a bus that goes to worsley Hall along the same route past my house but, Now goes up Pemberton for some reason, My friends used to use it who live on Wentworth road, they now have to use taxis because of the long walk ( for an OAP ) the the main bus stops, So yeah

Andy ,Wake up, help the elderly

that,s privitisation for you . if it,s not making money it gets dropped , i used to use that service to the shops on meadowcroft & then got enough time to get my usual bus the 157 rainford bus .

I was out and about today and noticed two number 10 BEE Line buses going together Down Bolton Rd towards Ashton, So nothing has changed, Same ole buses doin' the same ole routes with the same ole disorganization management,

Not sure if this is true but I was asking an Arriva bus driver today how much was it to goto St Helens from Wigan and he said £2. He then said next month it goes upto £2.50. My reply was does that include the Bee network buses as well and he said yes

I thought the £2 bus fare was capped at that price?

Bee network fares are £2 till at least Sept 2024 according to Burnham

The £2 fare is for the Greater Manchester area only.

The Government have extended £2 fare cap till 31.12.24 for most of the country included Greater Manchester.

Does the bee network operate in Merseyside?

I got a BEE BUS today, the number 10 out of Wigan to Ashton, It was a double decker diesel engined normal bus with new seats and internal fitments, I dunno if it was the driver or an auto ' stop/start device but, If the bus stopped to pick up passengers and there were a few, the engine cut out, It did not if only one passenger was coming on board or gerrin off and it did not start/stop at traffic lights so,,,My conclusion is, the driver decides when to stop n start and not the ' not so smart' BEE BUS,,,,,

Good. Hopefully he just meant the arriva buses.

lectrilegs

Very shortly and no doubt the same will follow in other Labour controlled Metropolian Countries, so why all the moaning about a fixed low fare of £2 for a 12 month period instead of the previous system of bus companies putting up fares when it suited them to do so in the course of any twelve month period.

The £2 fare is until September 2024 and then will obviously have to be reviewed as a result of rising costs which will include pay rises for staff as the wage bill is the biggest cost of any business.

The £2.00 fare cap, will continue until the end of 2024

when was the last time you got a bus 1stroke .

Seeing as Arriva departs from Grotsville to St. Helens (Merseyside)...yellow buzzes don't exist in Billinge Higher End Wigan.

Merseyside decided last week to follow Greater Manchester, and take back control of their bus services, if yoo want more information about the Bee Network, which as only started in Wigan & Bolton, then have a loof at the website, all is explained https://tfgm.com/

Wigan to st Helens goes upto £2.50 next month. Greater Manchester area cost stays the same at £2.

Why they can't provide a bus to go to the retail park from Beech Hill I just don't know..there is a bus stop directly facing my house..but it's only used to take children to School..since I'm now on my own I very often have to get taxis, the last one charged me £6-70..life would be so much easier just to get on a bus.

Tom,re the bus keep switching off at every bus stop...I initially thought that they were electric but now I'm not so sure,I'm going to ask the driver next time I'm on a bus.

Momac I've heard of Ring a Ride maybe you could try that

scorpion

The £2.00 price cap is being retained nationally until 31/12/2024

There have been changes to some Arriva routes LINK

Thank you Nana..I'll look into that.

Nana J,I’ve had a toot but I’m not that disabled and I’d feel like a cheat.. but thank you anyway .

This is the trouble with us momac we're honest

There’s too many folk with no pride Nana .

It's £2 on the bus from Wigan to southport.

I went to catch the bus last week but didn't know that if you got the bus before 9-30 you had to pay £2-00.,bus pass or not, so I would have been better having a trip to Southport..I love going up Lord St.

It's a long journey Momac but for £2 it's a lot cheaper than the train.

When my hubby was alive we used to go every Sunday, I just love the place when it was my birthday the other week my youngest lad took me to Westminster tea rooms on Lord Street for my lunch… I always feel at home in Southport.

Won't be claiming my Grotsville bus pass...as there is no way I am going to Grotsville for ANY reason.

Where is this Grotsville folk keep mentioning.

Momac it's his term for Wigan.

Thank you angelwood.